PART 3 - Thurs online Bible Study chat text - 6/25/09 - A Word about coming calamity + the finished victory

11:40:12lisa *unicef says:

Yashua is my tree, my visual is much like Em's

11:40:19Trent says:

11:40:21Chris says:

lol

11:40:32Trent says:

that would make a great shirt

11:40:37Trent says:

"Tree of Life hugger"

11:40:39Emily says:

I have a key chain that says that

11:40:41Timothy says:

the Lord says to be quiet and let trent teach.....so I will be still now

11:40:58Trent says:

oh boy ... pressure

11:41:00Trent says:

11:41:09Trent says:

ya'll ready to be dazzled?

11:41:10Timothy says:

but if you need a verse of quote Im ready bro

11:41:12Trent says:

just kidding

11:41:16Amy says:

11:41:28danlafave@windstream.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:

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11:41:32Trent says:

ya'll pray for me, and I'll pray for me too and we'll get through this thing

11:41:41Trent says:

by His grace

11:41:42Trent says:

11:41:52Emily says:

Amen

11:42:04Chris says:

Already did buddy

11:42:18danlafave@windstream.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:

yep also

11:42:18Chris says:

His Love will guide you Trent

11:42:20lisa *unicef says:

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11:43:52Trent says:

Beloved son of men, give heed and do all I command you, and learn patience, even as I have given you. Receive of Me and so do... walk even as I have walked. Follow close behind Me, and you shall behold all things according to My purpose in you, and according to that trust in which you abide. My son, this work in which you have and hold fast to is indeed a finished work, and can by no means be undone, nor can it depart or be taken from you... it remains an unbreakable cord... everlasting, according to the promise fulfilled in Me, in you.

Know this, and take heed to yourself, and know the truth of My words, even of all these given to Timothy, your brother. The work is finished, and was completed even from the foundation of the world. Yet in the world you remain, even clay in My hands, softened and fit to be remolded, even as I have known you and see you in the season to come, even as you are in My Kingdom.

Therefore, strive and obey, and seek My ways,
and search out My will for you...
follow Me...
serve Me...
and soon you will be with Me, where I am.

11:44:10Trent says:

from: Those, Who Have Received, Shall Be Given More

11:45:06Chris says:

Amen

11:45:14Trent says:

anyone know what the "finished word" refers to?

11:45:31Suzanne says:

the knowledge of him and who he is?

11:45:50Trent says:

finish work ... sorry

11:45:53Timothy says:

*work

11:45:57Art and Kathy says:

the redemption of all..

11:45:57Amy says:

Conquering of satan

11:45:59Timothy says:

11:46:02Amy says:

?

11:46:05Chris says:

Holdfast = Therefore, strive and obey, and seek My ways,
and search out My will for you...
follow Me...
serve Me...
 

11:46:11danlafave@windstream.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:

the traveling and sistrubting of His Word to all the World

11:46:26Emily says:

being broken and repaired?

11:46:44Trent says:

hint: "it is finished."

11:46:48Art and Kathy says:

the Completed Plan..

11:47:12jeanette says:

All was finished before the foundation of the world

11:47:32Trent says:

what else happened specifically before the foundation of the world

11:47:32Amy says:

Conquering of sin and death.

11:47:44Suzanne says:

the logos

11:47:55Chris says:

Names in Book of Life

11:47:57Chris says:

our days numbered

11:48:03jayse says:

the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the World

11:48:03Art and Kathy says:

when ALL is restored to life...right

11:48:10Chris says:

he knew us and who we would be

11:48:18Amy says:

Yes, Jayse.

11:48:20Emily says:

Perfection...

11:48:31Trent says:

Joh 19:30
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, He said, "It is finished." And He bowed His head and gave up the ghost.

11:48:44Art and Kathy says:

when His Kingdom is returned to Him..

11:48:52Chris says:

He was slain from the Foundation

11:49:03Trent says:

Re 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the Book of Life of the Lamb, slain from the foundation of the world.

11:49:15Timothy says:

Mt 13:35 - Show Context
that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying: "I will open My mouth in parables; I will utter things kept secret from the foundation of the world." 

11:49:16Trent says:

So what is the finished work?

11:49:26Timothy says:

Mt 25:34 - Show Context
Then the King will say to those on His right hand, 'Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 

11:49:50Chris says:

All prepared from the beginning

11:49:52danlafave@windstream.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:

Trumpeting His Return

11:49:56Art and Kathy says:

..the Kingdom restored

11:50:10jayse says:

the Sacrifice of Yahshua, conqueinrg sin and death

11:50:16Trina says:

Jesus's death on the cross

11:50:17Trent says:

Jayse has it

11:50:20Emily says:

I was just thinkin' that Jayse

11:50:22Trent says:

you too Trina

11:50:32Timothy says:

(i have more verses when your ready "teach")

11:50:38Trent says:

go, bro

11:51:02Timothy says:

foudation of world verses:

11:51:04Timothy says:

Joh 17:24 - Show Context
Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world.

Eph 1:4 - Show Context
just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love,

11:51:15Timothy says:

Heb 4:3 - Show Context
For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said: "So I swore in My wrath, 'They shall not enter My rest,' " although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 

11:53:02Timothy says:

there's more but this is sufficient 

11:54:31Timothy says:

plz continue

11:54:46Trent says:

i'm looking for a verse

11:54:48Trent says:

hold on

11:56:21Trent says:

almost have it

11:57:36Trent says:

2 Cor 2:14
But thanks be to God, who in the Messiah constantly leads us in a triumphal procession and through us spreads everywhere the fragrance of what it means to know him!

2:15
For to God we are the aroma of the Messiah, both among those being saved and among those being lost;

2:16
to the latter, we are the smell of death leading only to more death; but to the former, we are the sweet smell of life leading to more life. Who is equal to such a task?

2:17
For we are not like a lot of folks who go about huckstering God's message for a fee; on the contrary, we speak out of a sincere heart, as people sent by God, standing in God's presence, living in union with the Messiah.

11:58:14Trent says:

what a sweet passage, amen?

11:58:21Amy says:

Yep.

11:58:29Timothy says:

amen

11:58:33jayse says:

i like that

11:58:39Chris says:

Amen

11:58:39Emily says:

Really neat

11:58:44Trent says:

why a triumphal procession?

11:58:52danlafave@windstream.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:

super bro'!!

11:59:00Chris says:

"Aroma of The Messiah"

11:59:11jeanette says:

because He has already won

11:59:14danlafave@windstream.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:

Who other than Him can "win"?

11:59:23Trent says:

Yes, Jeanette

11:59:24Emily says:

Nobody

11:59:26Art and Kathy says:

because the battle has already been won

11:59:33Trent says:

finished work?

11:59:42Art and Kathy says:

(sorry Jeanette!)

11:59:44jayse says:

YES

11:59:44Timothy says:

"For we are not like a lot of folks who go about huckstering God's message for a fee; on the contrary, we speak out of a sincere heart, as people sent by God, standing in God's presence, living in union with the Messiah." = Letters

11:59:46Trent says:

He is showing off His victory

11:59:52jayse says:

finished!

12:00:10Chris says:

No Money No Donations FREE to ALL =)

12:00:16Timothy says:

amen'

12:00:19Trent says:

Yeah, that last verse reminds me alot of what this league is doing and following in Tim's calling

12:00:23Emily says:

Amen

12:00:46Timothy says:

sorry didnt mean to takke us off finished work topic

12:00:51Trent says:

We are truly the Lord's trophies of His victory.

12:00:54Timothy says:

being quiet again 

12:01:17Trent says:

What does a trophy do to earn the triumph?

12:01:44Art and Kathy says:

nothing at all..

12:01:44danlafave@windstream.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:

outlasts all others

12:01:47Timothy says:

The time has come, and is come already, and yet is come, for all vessels of the Father to be restored and placed upon the mantle of His honor, ...

12:01:55jeanette says:

Nothing..it is the ONE behind the triumph

12:01:59Trent says:

perfect quote, Tim

12:02:20Trent says:

So, YOU and I are the restored trophies to the Father's mantle, amen?

12:02:32jayse says:

AMEN

12:02:36Amy says:

Yes.

12:02:46danlafave@windstream.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:

Thank You Lord

12:02:48Chris says:

reference to rapture?

12:02:55Trent says:

We are reminders of a victory won

12:03:17Trent says:

the proof of the sucess of a winner, amen?

12:03:24Emily says:

amen

12:03:29Trent says:

So why is that a good description for us?

12:03:35jayse says:

All Glory to the Lord, we cant do anything apart from Him

12:03:40Trent says:

yes

12:03:51jayse says:

but He can do all things throuhgh us,

12:03:51danlafave@windstream.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:

are you saying that we are His lights in an ever-darkening world?

12:03:52Trent says:

did the trophy win the battle ?

12:03:59Chris says:

nope

12:03:59jayse says:

nope

12:03:59Amy says:

No.

12:04:01Emily says:

no

12:04:01Sasha says:

without Him we would be losers...

12:04:03danlafave@windstream.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:

no

12:04:07Trent says:

did the trophy secure the victory?

12:04:11Amy says:

No

12:04:18Suzanne says:

just a reminder

12:04:19jayse says:

no

12:04:21danlafave@windstream.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:

all glory goes to Him

12:04:24Trent says:

What did we contribute to the finished work?

12:04:33Amy says:

Absolutely nothin'

12:04:36Chris says:

empty vessel

12:04:39Emily says:

nada

12:04:41Chris says:

just ourselfs

12:04:43jayse says:

nothin

12:04:47Chris says:

He did the Work in us

12:04:51Trent says:

The trophy simple celebrates an event to which it
contributed nothing, yet is intimately linked to.

12:04:59danlafave@windstream.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:

His Will in us

12:05:20Trent says:

It is Christ Jesus' victory!

12:05:30Chris says:

Amen

12:05:30jeanette says:

Yes! Amen!

12:05:40jayse says:

YEs!

12:05:45danlafave@windstream.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:

absolutely!!

12:06:25Trent says:

My son, this work in which you have and hold fast to is indeed a finished work, and can by no means be undone, nor can it depart or be taken from you... it remains an unbreakable cord... everlasting, according to the promise fulfilled in Me, in you.

Know this, and take heed to yourself, and know the truth of My words, even of all these given to Timothy, your brother. The work is finished, and was completed even from the foundation of the world. Yet in the world you remain, even clay in My hands, softened and fit to be remolded, even as I have known you and see you in the season to come, even as you are in My Kingdom.

Therefore, strive and obey, and seek My ways,
and search out My will for you...
follow Me...
serve Me...
and soon you will be with Me, where I am.

12:06:29Trent says:

from before

12:06:56Trent says:

You see life is not a series of battles that we win or loose ... win some; loose some, is it?

12:07:10Trent says:

We are not working FOR victory

12:07:16Trent says:

We are working FROM victory

12:07:18Emily says:

the victory is already won

12:07:20Suzanne says:

through Christ, the victory is won

12:07:28Trent says:

amen

12:07:30Amy says:

good point, Trent

12:07:40Trent says:

notice the flow of that letter

12:07:51Trent says:

it flows from His victory to our work

12:08:00Trent says:

what if the flow is reversed?

12:08:09Amy says:

We'd lose.

12:08:09Trent says:

anyone ever try that?

12:08:11Chris says:

cant me done

12:08:17Timothy says:

Victory is assured, for the enemy is and was defeated, since the foundation of the world...fear not, the Lord is with you. [Jesus] ...

12:08:21Chris says:

cant work our way to victory

12:08:25danlafave@windstream.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:

then the glory is not all His, it has always been Him from the start

12:08:53Chris says:

the grace in us shows works

12:08:58Chris says:

works cannot get us to grace

12:09:20Trent says:

if victory is up to us ... are not His commands a burden?

12:09:31jayse says:

yep

12:09:33Trent says:

and if victory is already secure ... are not His commands light?

12:09:44Amy says:

Absolutely.

12:09:48danlafave@windstream.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:

yes

12:09:59Suzanne says:

his desire is that we follow him - easy to do when u know him

12:10:00Trent says:

tim has some quotes for that

12:10:15Timothy says:

yea!!!!

12:10:25Timothy says:

I get to paste some more   lol

12:10:29Chris says:

lol

12:10:33jeanette says:

12:11:04danlafave@windstream.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:

lay it on us brother!!

12:11:05Trent says:

while tim is doing that

12:11:07Trent says:

...

12:11:14Amy says:

(He's sitting here biting at the bit, but the Lord was asking him to be still... kind of hard for Tim to do)

12:11:21Trent says:

we have alot ahead for each of us, no?

12:11:24Timothy says:

28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light." 

12:11:33Emily says:

We do, Trent

12:11:47Trent says:

do it, then FROM victory not FOR victory

12:11:59Trent says:

12:11:59Amy says:

Anyone who loves Christ has alot ahead of them.

12:12:03danlafave@windstream.net (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:

yes indeed!!!

12:12:10Timothy says:

My burden is light, for all those who trust in Me. 

12:12:10Emily says:

amen Amy

12:12:38Suzanne says:

he carries us

12:12:41Amy says:

Right... that is a very strenthening statement, Trent.

12:12:50Amy says:

FROM victory, not FOR victory.

12:13:11jeanette says:

Yes indeed, Amy,

12:13:11jayse says:

GOD is so Awsome!!!

12:13:13Emily says:

In that statement is hope too...